Thorns FC: Gone in 1,260 Seconds

We can argue until Boxing Day about the whys and hows and whatthefucks that dropped three points. At home. To the dreadful Boston Legacy.

What you can’t really dispute is the when.

Because that’s as clear as the bars on the Sofascore “attacking momentum” bar graph.

Let’s walk through it by the time blocks, starting from the first half kickoff.

Minutes 0-22′ – All the same old Thorns attacking problems show up again: We’ve gone through this after almost every match. The Thorns 2026 squad has several interlocking problems going forward:
1. Sophia Wilson is the key to the lock. If Wilson is working, the “attack” is usually working, but
2. The rest of the offensive pieces; Reilyn Turner, Caiya Hanks, Morgan Weaver, and to a lesser extent Pietra Tordin, aren’t working well as a group. Each has individual strengths, but because
3. Coach Vilahamn hasn’t worked out a system that integrates each one’s strengths to enhance the others (or mitigate their and their teammates’ weaknesses). So
4. Portland has been consistently scoring “above their xG” – until recently – meaning that low percentage chances were going in. And that tends to regress to the mean over time.

So last Saturday Portland had all the early possession, created four decent-or-better attacking situations, but couldn’t score from any of them.

3′ – Tordin drew defensive pressure with a strong run before sliding the ball forward to Hanks, but Hanks’ heavy touch turned over.
6′ – Weaver’s press forced a turnover that Jessie Fleming passed up to Tordin to feed Wilson; Wilson put together a nice run at goal but her eventual shot was well over the crossbar.
14′ – This time it was Nina Nijstad with the press and tackle for gain. Nijstad to Wilson, who was tackled and the ball ran wide to Tordin. Tordin’s pass found Hanks open, but Hank’s good effort was blocked and rolled out wide again.
15′ – Jayden Perry picked up the loose ball and hit a good long pass to a running M.A. Vignola down the left touchline. Vignola’s cross was met by Tordin, but the shot was, again, too high.

Then everything for Portland went completely and utterly to Hell.

Minute 22′ – Sophia Wilson goes utterly mad: I’ve been speculating for some time about Wilson’s headspace and timing. That she’s struggling with something or several somethings. That she’s got some version of what we called at Slide Rule Pass (about Christine Sinclair when she seemed to have similar issues in 2016 season) the “Black Yips”; scoring problems that seemed to work deep into her confidence and affect all aspects of her game.

No question but that Laís dos Santos Araújo was being a fucking nuisance, grinding into, blocking, arm-waving, and impeding Wilson as the Portland striker tried to support Weaver’s long run.

What motivated Wilson to reach out and grab Araújo’s hair, though?

I have no fucking idea.

It was an utterly stupid foul. Both players were completely peripheral to the play on the field. Wilson would have gained nothing had she yanked the Brazilian’s jersey, or shoulder, instead. But surely once Wilson felt and saw nothing but her opponent’s hair in her hand, she should have had the good sense to just let go. Hair pull? Straight red; no argument, no excuse, no justification. She was gone and should have realized that whatever she’d had in mind until that moment of madness, it wasn’t worth the risk of the sending off.

She didn’t, and in that instant, changed the game and, possibly, her and her club’s season.

I suspect Wilson will have some considerable time to brood on that.

Minutes 22 to 43 – Portland delaminates, and Boston takes over: We’ve seen this once before this season, in the home loss to Washington back in early September. Here’s how I described it then:

“I can’t recall when I last saw a Thorns squad do this; lose much (or nearly all) of their composure, scrambling desperately and disconnectedly while their opponents calmly picked them apart. It felt like Portland – the backline, surely, but the whole side more or less – was panicking, feeling the match slipping away and lacking ideas of how to control or combat that.”

It was ugly then, and I didn’t understand whether the coaching staff wasn’t seeing and understanding it, or whether they were and just didn’t have a solution, or what the hell was going on.

After the Wilson red card it happened again.

For about 21 minutes the Thorns were utterly adrift, while Boston smacked the ball around and past and through them like so many black-shirted practice cones. Portland’s only “good fortune” was that Boston – and remember, Boston is shit, so – couldn’t convert either. Bianca St. Georges fired over (25′), then Sarah Schupansky shot high (28′), then Aïssata Traore’ scuffed a point-blank shot that rolled to Mackenzie Arnold (33′), then Midge Purce fired wide left (34′).

But finally the Legacy worked the ball around, Vignola’s woolgathering left Alba Caño onside for a simple through-ball, and Caño beat Arnold, 0-1 Boston in the 35th minute.

Four minutes later dark lightning struck Portland again, even as the Thorns seemed to be beginning to retrieve their sosiega. Carolyn Calzada cleared a looping blocked ball poorly, but it didn’t look like Boston was getting anything out of it…until Schupansky’s shot skipped off Calzada’s back, took a weird screwball bounce to kiss the inside of the right post and past Arnold, 0-2 when the match leveled out in the 43rd minute or so.

Then the match settled back down.

Minutes 43 to 87 – To and fro but pretty much just a whole lot of nothing: Between the end of the first half and the end of the second the match was fairly even. Which in itself is a pretty harsh judgement on the Swans, since a halfway-decent club should have bossed a ten-player opponent like, well, a boss.

Boston couldn’t, didn’t, and that let Portland sneak back into the match, sorta.

The second half was Portland’s Pietra Tordin Show. PT-19 was everywhere; driving at Boston’s goal, passing, shooting, all sorts of good-for-Portland trouble. In the 57th minute Tordin’s driving run after a sweet Turner headed flick (and we’ll talk about that in her comment, trust me!) forced Casey Murphy off her line and into a collision that set up the PK…which Tordin potted firmly, 1-2 at the hour.

Both sides had chances, though nothing particularly dangerous, until

Minutes 88 to 97 – All the same old Thorns defensive problems show up again: In the 85th minute Amanda Gutierres dos Santos went in, replacing Nichelle Prince.

Y’know the part in the science fiction flick where all the lights and sirens suddenly scream, or in the slasher movie where the music suddenly gets ominous and creepy? Okay, yeah; that should have been this moment.

In Washington on September 13th Gutierres had been subbed on (in the 84th minute, for Aïssata) and proceeded to score a brace in injury time to hammer the Spirit flat (from 0-1 to 0-3).

If I’d have been in Vytas’ trainers I’d have been screaming at his squad “Ginti ją! Ginti ją!” or whatever the Lithuanian is for “Mark the shit out of her!”. Gutierres was clearly dangerous in that situation, and yet…

In the 88th minute the Brazilian blew past both Perry and Calzada like mileposts, and caught Arnold doping off well off her line, coolly spun past her and sank the dagger in, 1-3.

One of our substitutes – Shae Harvey – pulling back a second Thorns goal two minutes later, but that only kept it close for another three minutes. In the 93rd minute Perry’s missed tackle gave Gutierres all the time she needed to tee up Double Bird’s cross and lock in the win, 2-4, and thanks for coming, don’t forget to…aw, fuckit.

Could Portland have beaten the Legacy at full strength?

Very likely…although the Chicago and Houston draws will always make that my immediate response instead of “Oh fuck yes.” This club has made skeptical hesitancy the most justifiable approach to it’s results.

Could Portland still have pulled this match out after the Wilson red?

I’m honestly not sure. Had the squad kept their shit together for the twenty-odd minutes after the red? Possibly. Maybe. At least they would have had a chance.

But what I suspect is that there’s some sort of fragility or vulnerability in the very basic makeup of this squad…call it their “mentality” or “heart” or “spirit” or “morale”, if you will…that makes them at risk for deconstructing violently when some sort of surprise or shock or disaster strikes.

I thought the exact opposite at the beginning of the season, after the Two Players Down Two Goals Up win over Seattle. That this season’s squad was tough at the heart. That if things go wrong the gang will pull together.

Instead, over the past month, when they needed each other most, they’ve fallen apart.

Short Passes

Possession; Boston 58%, Portland 42%. Yeah, what you’d think a player down…though it’s an indictment of Boston’s crapitude that at the end of the first half the field was tilted even further towards the Legacy (61-39) so despite playing one-up for over 52 minutes, against a squad that struggles to hold possession and is typically out-possessed, Boston was something like 55%-45%. What a shitshow.
Passing; Boston 82% of 447 passes, Portland 76% of 314. This was a problem for Portland, and we’ll talk about it in the turnover section.

Here’s Carlisle-sensei’s “xG map”

Couple of things about this. First, the Portland misses are damning. Look at the red cluster around the penalty spot. Two are goals, so, good. Two others are on frame, but saved, so “good idea”. Five, five, of nine are clean misses, purely wasted. That’s the very epitome of “not good”.

Second, two of the four Boston goals are ridiculous junkballs; the Schupansy/Calzada own-goal, and first Gutierres goal, which we’ve already discussed was pure Portland defensive breakdown.

If the Thorns could defend from whistle to whistle and finish the good chances they create this squad would be running away with the Shield. And I could be the Dragon King of Bhutan.

Carlisle-sensei with the passing plots. Portland:

Notice that a huge portion of the passing shown here is during the “Thorns collapse” portion of the match. I’m not saying that if it had extended into second half injury time that it would look that much better – the Thorns were playing down one still – but that horrific twenty-odd minutes can’t help but make this look worse than it might.

Here’s Boston:

The Legacy get weaker the further forward they go, and this, again, is from their most dominant portion of the match. This still isn’t a decent club.

Turnover and over.

Here’s how things are going;

Opponent – Venue (Result)	Turnovers
Washington – Away (W)	26
Seattle – Home (W)	11
San Diego – Away (L)	29
Kansas City – Home (W)	23
North Carolina – Away (D)	25
Angel City – Away (W)	22
San Diego – Home (W)	17
Chicago – Away (W)	32
Louisville – Away (L)	25
Angel City – Home (D)	No data
Bay FC – Home (W)	33
Kansas City – Away (L)	29
Utah – Home (D)	23
Louisville – Home (W)	21
Seattle – Away (L)	33
Denver – Away (L)	33
Gotham – Home (D)	23
Utah – Away (L)	17
Boston – Away (W)	17
Orlando – Home (W)	24
Denver – Home (W)	19
Gotham – Away (D)	21
Washington – Home (L)	23
Chicago – Home (D)	18
Orlando – Away (W)	22
Houston – Home (D)	20
Boston – Home (L)	33

What a fucking disaster.

At a time when the club needed composure in possession the Thorns sprayed the ball around like glitter at a little kid’s birthday party. What make it worse is that just when the squad looked like it was pulling itself together the passing went completely to hell; 13 turnovers before the halftime break (and six of those before the Wilson red) then 20 after halftime. Boston wasn’t tidy – losing 20 unforced turnovers , ten in each half – but were much better than the hosts.

Morgan Weaver was a hot mess, turning over six times (in only 56 minutes of play!). Fleming coughed up five, Perry and Hanks four each, Arnold and Turner three each.

None of the turnovers was individually horrific, but the cumulative effect was to continue shattering the cohesion of a squad already teetering along the edge of the abyss.

Press!

Twenty-sixth match tracking the press. I counted either a 1) turnover (either from a tackle-for-loss or a mishit forced pass), or a 2) forced retreat or drop-pass that killed off a progressive action, as a pressing “win”.

The red card made this one very odd.

Before the sending off both sides were pressing fairly hard; Portland with 20 attempts (8 wins (40%) and two forced turnovers, Boston with 12 attempts, 7 wins (about 58%), 3 takeways). The remainder of the first half Portland, as discussed, was shell-shocked; only 9 attempts, 3 wins (33%), no takeaways.

From the red to halftime Boston pressed 17 times, won 8 of them (47%) but took the ball away 4 of those times. Interestingly, the line of Boston confrontation pushed high; before the red only 4 of the 12 presses were in the Thorns defensive third; from then to halftime the Legacy were in Portland’s third for 7 of their 17 presses…but lost all seven! Their pressing wins were all in midfield. Fucking Boston. Go figure.

After the break Boston just stopped pressing. Why bother? Up two goals, why risk getting spun or passed through trying to press? And certainly not high; only 2 of 8 in the Thorns third. So 8 presses, and 5 wins (63.5%) but with three takeaways.

Portland, down a player but fighting to push back into the match, pressed 23 times, winning 11 with 8 takeaways. But goals, and sendings-off, change games and not for the better if you’re getting scored on or carded. Well, shit.

Match time	Legacy presses (wins)(%)	Thorns presses (wins)(%)
0-45+7′	28(15) (53.5%)	30(12) (40%)
45-90+7′	8(5) (63.5%)	23(11) (47.8%)
Match Total	36(20) (55.1%)	53(23) (43.3%)

My thoughts:
1) Boston got most of what they needed without pressing, so why risk it?
2) Props to Portland for trying. The second half especially was a bit encouraging, but also a bitter reminder how a short spell of collapse can doom the whole enterprise.
3) What’s interesting is the “Wilson Vacancy Effect”. Before her sending off Portland – meaning, effectively, Wilson – tried 10 of the total of 20 in Boston’s defensive third but won only 2 of the 10 with no takeaways. After Wilson gets run and the Thorns drop into a 4-4-1? 10 of the 23 in the attacking third, but of those presses only 4 are wins though they produce 3 takeaways.
4) Hmmm.

Here’s the running tally:

Match (Result)	Opponent Press (Success)	Thorns Press (Success)
Washington Away (W)	40(27) (67.5%)	69(41) (59.4%)
Seattle Home (W)	61(30) (49.1%)	35(20) (57.1%)
San Diego Away (L)	33(22) (66.6%)	88(40) (45.4%)
Kansas City Home (W)	26(15) (57.6%)	43(23) (53.4%)
North Carolina Away (D)	35(22) (62.8%)	56(26) (46.4%)
Angel City Away (W)	52(37) (71.1%)	61(32) (52.4%)
San Diego Home (W)	45(71) (63.3%)	45(80) (56.2%)
Chicago Away (W)	68(34) (50%)	97(51) (52.2%)
Louisville Away (L)	101(70) (69.5%)	62(35) (56.4%)
Angel City Home (D)	No data	No data
Bay FC Home (W)	59(34) (57.6%)	59(37) (62.7%)
Kansas City Away (L)	52(29) (55.7%)	34(20) (58.8%)
Utah Home (D)	99(55) (55.5%)	60(31) (51.6%)
Louisville Home (W)	55(31) (56.3%)	28(13) (46.4%)
Seattle Away (L)	67(46) (68.6%)	66(35) (53.0%)
Denver Away (L)	46(24) (52.1%)	53(27) (50.9%)
Gotham Home (D)	60(32) (53.3%)	58(86) (67.4%)
Utah Away (L)	86(61) (70.9%)	70(38) (54.2%)
Boston Away (W)	84(55) (65.4%)	83(44) (53%)
Orlando Home (w)	94(57) (60.6%)	87(55 (63.2%)
Denver Home (W)	87(55) (63.2%)	60(32) (53.3%)
Gotham Away (D)	42(34) (80.9%)	90(49) (54.4%)
Washington Home (L)	43(30) (69.7%)	64(35) (54.6%)
Chicago Home (D)	42(27) (64.2%)	54(33) (61.1%)
Orlando Away (W)	38(29) (76.3%)	39(23) (58.9%)
Houston Home (D)	20(11) (55%)	43(23) (53.4%)
Boston Home (L)	36(20) (55.1%)	53(23) (43.3%)

Corner Kicks

Five. One in the first half, four in the second. The first half attempt was played short, all the others long.

Time	Taker	Short/Long?	Result
18′	Fleming	Short	…to Tordin, but Boston comes out and boots it into touch.
71′	Muller	Long	Went all the way over the scrum to the far top of the 18; Hanks tried to advance the ball but her heavy touch went over the byline.
80′	Muller	Long	Onto Nijstad’s head. Her looping header was cleared over the byline for another corner.
80′	Muller	Long	Murphy boxed away. Recycled, but came to nothing.
90+6′	Muller	Long	Murphy boxed clear again. Fleming recycled to Turner, but her header was soft and right at Murphy.

It seems that the Short Corner Experiment is over. I get that; as noted for the last match, “a short corner by its very nature HAS to be some sort of set play” and we don’t do that shit.

But our long/direct attempts don’t seem to generate much, either, so…someone needs to think about this. Sometime before the heat death of the universe.

Player Ratings and Comments

Wilson (22′ – +5/-2) Possibly the most boneheaded thing I’ve ever seen her do, and that includes her other bizarre red, the silly “Bwahaha, I’m hiding the ball under my bench!” one from several seasons ago.

I don’t know what the hell’s going on in her head, but this is going to hurt her club, and that’s the exact opposite of what Wilson is here for. Several fans have talked about her seeing a sport psychologist because of Wilson’s recent struggles. I’ve never been in that crowd – I sure don’t know what she should do; it’s her job, her life, not mine – but this was an exceptionally ugly, shockingly dumb foul, so, yeah, maybe. Something needs to happen; Wilson has been taking on water since the midseason break and this team is too dependent on her for that to continue.

Now, unsurprisingly, the league has handed Wilson an extra game suspension for this foolishness, meaning that Wilson won’t see the Providence Park pitch again unless (or until) the Thorns can struggle far enough up the table (without her for two of the last three games) to nick a home quarterfinal.

You wanna bet me all the money in your pocket on that happening..?

Hanks (80′ – +4/-2 : +4/-3 : +8/-5) Hanks has tremendous pace, which this match showcased again. Her touch, though…like a brick. Four of her five minuses are for “heavy touches”, almost all of which gave the ball away and stopped an attack.

Some of this is obviously rust, some is probably still her working through rehab, some is lacking an attacking system that, as here we keep returning as a corgi returneth to its vomit, doesn’t help her find ways to elide that problem.

But it still is a problem, and one that a perceptive and skilled coaching staff might help her overcome.

Hmmm…

McKenzie (10′ – +1/-1) No real impact; Mallie McKenzie isn’t a game-changing quality attacker or a lockdown defender, both of which is what Portland needed in those final minutes.

Tordin (+8/-1 : +12/-0 : +20/-1) Woman of the Match by ten furlongs. Holy shit. But…here’s the thing that kind of bugs me. Yes, Tordin reached out and took this match by as much of the throat as she could, given the player-down hole she and her squad were dug in. She had a terrific match on a tough day for her club.

Why doesn’t she do this when Wilson is on the pitch? Why aren’t we…why isn’t the whole league…talking about “Wilson and Tordin” the way soccer fans talk about “Triple Expresso”, or “Messi and Suarez”? The two of them have their moments, sure, but…

I suspect you know the most likely reason, and I wonder if we’ll see anything this coming weekend that suggests that Emma Hayes might help them out.

Nijstad (86′ – +4/-1 : +8/-0 : +12/-1) The other Thorn I think had a “decent or better” game against Boston was Nina Nijstad, which is kind of interesting because the 4-1-4-1 (and, later, the 4-4-1) pushed her into the “attacking midfield” line where I usually expect her to struggle with passing.

The sending off might have played a part in that, since after going down to ten Nijstad had to perforce do more defending and, as usual, did a hell of a good job there. Much of Boston’s struggles to put this match away had to do with Nijstad, in particular, pressing and breaking up whatever they tried to push up at her. Sofascore loved hell out of her; second-highest rated Thorn after Tordin (admittedly, not a high bar; sorry, Thorns) but 10 “defensive contributions”, 5 wins of 8 tackles, 10 ground duels won of 16.

Harvey (4′ – +1/-0) Well…that was a nice strike, wasn’t it?

Weaver (56′ – +2/-5 : +0/-0 : +2/-5) I’d like to say that Morgan Weaver has been “steadily regressing” since her return to the pitch, but in fact, not really; outside of a bright moment or two Weaver has looked like what she is, a young athlete trying to return to her sport after a harrowingly awful injury.

She still has some pace in bursts. The fight is still there, but the long layoff and the physical struggle against what must be an uncooperative body is visible in Weaver’s difficulty in contributing to the squad. Her former role as “Wilson’s wing strike partner” is gone, either because she, or Wilson, or the both can’t figure out how to make it work again, and the gaffer hasn’t figured out another effective role for her.

I’m not giving up on her; Weaver has worked her tail off just to get this far, and so long as she has anything left in her she deserves the chance to keep working.

There comes a day, though, when the spirit isn’t enough, when the body just can’t anymore.

I hope that day is not soon.

Turner (34′ – +7/-3) Some of the same struggles that Tordin (and Hanks and Weaver) had; just no real system for her to play a role in…until in the second half, when her keeper and backs discovered the One Secret Turner Trick; the woman can skip flick headers into the attacking third like some kind of Drunken Stone-Skipping Master. And she did, repeatedly, including the “assist” on Tordin’s PK and in the attack that produced the Harvey goal.

I have no idea how many times the Thorns can run with that, but for now? If it works, it works.

Fleming (+2/-5 : +6/-2 : +8/-7) Tough match. Got beat a lot (lost 2 of 3 tackles and 9 of 12 “ground duels”), not great going forward (she’s credited with three “key passes”, but the only one I can find in my notes is part of an 82nd minute attack that produced a dangerous Tordin rocket that Murphy had to scramble to block)…it’s games like this, when the club really needs veteran leadership, that I’d like to see Fleming step in and rally the troops. After Wilson got the boot I’d have liked Fleming to have marshaled the squad to set up and defend until they could find some ideas going forward.

Instead everybody was struck by the same Headless Chicken Encephalitis, shipped two goals in twenty-odd minutes, and never really recovered.

Reyes (56′ – +4/-3 : +0/-0 : +4/-3) First things first; no backline that ships four goals, including two to a known substitute poacher inside of three minutes in second half injury time, can hold their heads up. This match was a complete goat rodeo with extra goats. That said, Reyna Reyes was the “best of the backline” until, unfortunately, she was pulled for additional striking power from…

Muller (34′ – +2/-2) …which didn’t arrive, so instead the Thorns defense broke down and shipped two more goals. I dunno what the Swedish saying is, but here we say “If your cunning plan doesn’t work you sure don’t look very fucking cunning, bro.”

Calzada (+1/-6 : +2/-3 : +2/-9) Once past Reyes, though, things got real ugly real quick. While Calzada wasn’t directly culpable for the own goal, her exceptionally poor clearance allowed Aïssata to kick the ball out to Schupansky who did make the OG happen, so…

Both centerbacks played like the noobs they are. Caught doping off by Aïssata in the 41st minute, caught upfield in the 73rd minute, quick-fried to a crackly crunch by Gutierres in the 88th. This is one the rook is gonna want to forget.

Perry (+2/-4 : +3/-2 : +5/-6) Same here. Throw-in turnover in her own third in the 22nd minute, stabbed and missed to free Purce in the 39th, and we’ve mentioned the 41st and 88th minutes. Finished the evening by stabbing (and missing) to invite Gutierres to pot her second,

Vignola (+4.-3 : +7/-2 : +11/-5) This is one of those “how many pluses/minuses is (insert amazingly good/horrifically bad thing) worth?” problem I had with Wilson’s red.

Vignola did a lot of “little things” right. Passes, marking, interceptions…those are her pluses.

But her minuses? Ohmifuckinggod. Singlehandedly responsible for the Caño goal (failed to step up when her backline did, keeping Caño onside). Lucky not to have gifted Boston the opener two minutes earlier when she completely lost track of Aïssata and bailed out only by a poor shot. This was another in the “played a terrific 88 minutes then utterly shit the bed” file that’s becoming kind of a Thorns thing this season.

That is something bigger than just Vignola, though. We’ll get there in just a bit.

Arnold (+1/-1 : +0/-2 : +1/-3) Again, there’s the “terrific save to keep things close-ish” in the 41st minute counterweighted by “caught off her line like a rec league keeper” in the 88th. Did poorly on Gutierres’ second goal, as well. Like I said above; nobody in back looked good against Boston; hell’s bells, nobody on the whole squad other than Tordin, Nijstad, and Turner were in this match and obviously that wasn’t enough.

Coach Vilahamn: We’ve been down this road too many times already this season and it’s really pointless to to keep trudging back there. You know my position on this.

Although this game did add another “what fresh hell is this..?” to the pile.

Among the technical and tactical responsibilities of the team manager (head coach, whatever you call him) is the “spirit” of the squad. The “soul” of the team, it’s resilience, it’s ability to tough out the bad times, to stand fast and fight back, to never give up, to win against the odds.

Some managers do that by being so frightening that their players dare not lose more for fear of the gaffer’s anger than the pure shame of losing. Supposedly Alex Ferguson was one of those; several of his players from the monster United sides of the 90s and early Oughts have spoken out that although they respected his skills as a manager he was fucking terrifying, that they were more worried what he’d do if they lost than the losing itself.

I’m sure we don’t want that, or should.

But however they do it, a big part of the gaffer’s job is ensuring that her or his squad is a team, has “team spirit” through good results and bad.

The in-game collapse against Washington and, now, Boston, suggests some internal problems and possibly casts one more shadow over Vilahamn’s tenure.

(Isn’t that a terrific screenshot? Perfect. All I could think of as I was watching this again was “Yeah, me, too, Livvy. Me, too.”)